Hi, We are using turbogears with sqlalchemy for our web application. We needed to use our own identity provider and to do that we had to modify entry_points.txt and we had to add our plugin provider module under turbogears/identity. Modifying any of the files in the directory where turbogears was installed is a problem for us because we use an automated deploy script for our web application which means that the script has to add myProviderFile.py to the identity directory and has to add an entry for it in entry_points.txt. I don't undertsand why you can't set the identity.provider entry in your app.cfg file to the module and the class you want to use as your provider directly instead of setting it to sqlalchemy and looking up entry_points. It would be nice to be able to do it in your configuration file independent of the turbogears files. You can email me on lilolla@gmail.com with any comments regarding this issue. Thanks.